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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 12, 2011 9:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Sun Ra Doc.

This is a really well made documentary by the BBC done in '05, but it's the first time I've seen it. Even if you have little or no interest in his music you will enjoy this well written and produced piece that goes beyond Sun Ra to place him (if possible) in his time and space here on Earth. I'm sure he is still playing on some other planet right now, though the Arkestra is still touring here on Earth.

http://www.elrarecords.com/tour.html

So here is the site. Someone here turned me on to this place and I check in periodically. Good stuff there. Sorry that I can't remember who rec. it.

http://atane.net/

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Sep 12, 2011 4:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sun Ra Doc.

This was a well done documentary,having seen a few it covers a lot of ground for 1 hour,and does a good job on the basics. I would have loved to have seen him in the late 60's/early 70's,but my first experience was around 81' and it was very powerful,the music was far more psychedelic than any GD music I had witnessed.Sitting a few feet from his keyboards in a small club watching him attack his music was a unique experience,listening to the band go from a Sun Ra space composition into Autumn in New York into a Disney medley was just beautiful.I saw the Arkestra as often as I could until he died and they never ceased to capture my imagination and give it all they had.He was crazy as a loon,but he was a singular genius,a brilliant pianist and a keyboardist for the ages.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtHmqbnuZQs
A particularly raucous outing.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 12, 2011 5:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sun Ra Doc.

It's amazing to hear him into free jazz (I don't know what else to call it), then he riffs off some Count Basie or Duke.
On the vid, @ 2:44, I've never seen someone use a carpet sample as a 'slide' before. Then an chair! Or the drummer using one of his cymbals as a drumstick, or later the chair again as his whole kit. (That chair got the crap beat out of it.) What year was that recorded? '70 -'73? The audience seemed stunned.

In the doc. I like the quote near the beginning. "Look beyond this shit. Look beyond this horseshit from television and this limited imagery. Think bigger than this. Black people think about space. Fuck the ghetto, think about space."

I think D. has your email. I'm going to ask him to send you mine. You're some cool beans.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Sep 12, 2011 6:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sun Ra Doc.

Have you seen his movie "Space is the place" ? a MUST see . Part music, part blacksploitation , and rather strange and fun time , almost as odd as "Glen or Glenda "... well not even close , but that another story .

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Sep 12, 2011 10:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sun Ra Doc.

Nice recommendation on Space is the Place Dudley Dead,it is exactly how you described it,kind of the movie you would expect from Sun Ra.As to your question on the date of that footage in my post Micah,despite it being in black and white and looking somewhat dated,I believe I saw it dated somewhere as 1986 in West Berlin,and by the look of some of the band members it appears to be the 80's.The band seemed to be performing for the tv cameras,as you noted the bass player and drummer getting weird and the horn players doing some dueling at the end,all in good fun.The guy who probably has some good Sun Ra stories is GhostofPig,but he doesn't seem to check in on these jazz themed threads and it's a shame.I don't know how folks go about exchanging e-mail addresses here without them being seen by everyone Micah,I am severely computer skills challenged.

I posted this once before for Bluedevil,it is Wayne Kramer and a few guys from the MC5 performing Sun Ra's Starship with some members of the Arkestra.

http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/dkt/concerts/royce-hall-september-17-2005.html
It is smokin'.

This post was modified by jerlouvis on 2011-09-13 05:21:16

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 12, 2011 11:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sun Ra Doc.

great stuff - He's Lives is a big sun ra guy. He should weigh in.

Totally different tangent - jerlouvis, check out my buddy Mike Edison. He's playing "my" club here on November 18th but he lives back there:

http://www.mikeedison.com/about/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybZ8jAXIl24&;feature=related (featuring jon spencer, per usual)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx5-XNTVJyE

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2011-09-13 06:13:10

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Sep 13, 2011 9:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sun Ra Doc.

It is really weird that you know this guy BD,a week or two ago he had one of those great Led Zeppelin wine pairing parties in the city,and I read about it and was thinking what a strange idea.It turns out it was a strange idea by an equally interesting strange man,you have got to like a fat guy in a fez playing the therimin(sp)and sounding like Captain Beefheart.His resume is impressive BD, he must be a fun guy to spend some time with.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 13, 2011 9:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sun Ra Doc.

Was it at City Winery? http://www.citywinery.com/

My old pal that introduced me to Mike, and a guy I saw at least 50+ GD/JGB shows with, is an investor there and Edison's attorney (that will keep you busy!).

I was trying to find a Thurston Moore/Sun Ra vid for micah, but I'm sure he knows they exist. (tribute - not together).

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 13, 2011 10:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sun Ra Doc.

I do now BD. Thanks. I need some Thurston too.
I hope you and everything in BD land are good.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 13, 2011 11:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sun Ra Doc.

It always good at the Henry Miller Library, "where nothing happens ..."

http://thurstonmoorebigsursept29.eventbrite.com/

I think Sonic Youth and Sun Ra did a show together in Central Park late 90's. There may be some stuff out on the internets from the same.... ACTUALLY - much earlier than I thought ... and (egads) Sun Ra opened (this is right about same time that SY was playing on Ragged Glory tour with Neil Young - and the other band would be drivin n cryin or Social Distortion in the opening slot; if you listen to Weld, you'll know Neil was listening to SY)
http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/cc/070492.html

Best. BTW, Calhoun got the kid in this year's senior class. Talked to a coach that saw Drummond in Vegas this summer and said he's ready for NBA now (not that there is an NBA)

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Sep 13, 2011 12:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sun Ra Doc.

Truth be told BD, I did not take notice of the venue being struck with just how weird the concept was,I don't believe the article mentioned your friend( I could be wrong),what caught my eye was a picture of Joe Bastianich who I know from his mothers Lidia's cooking show and his own Master Chef show.City Winery is developing a name for itself and with any luck for your friends sake will succeed in spite of Michael Dorf's involvement,he was a partner and the guy who ran the Knitting Factory from it's opening until ?,he was well known for his ability to fuck up everything he was involved in.

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Poster: matchstickstatue Date: Sep 13, 2011 9:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sun Ra Doc.

Seen the Marshall Allen-led Arkestra many times, and they never disappoint live. He also made a great album with some more recent free-jazz heavyweights that's worth checking out:

http://eremite.com/album/mte-44

Having just seen William Parker and Kidd Jordan play a stunning, cathartic Sunday morning concert, I've been cranking post Sun-ra emancipatory jazz for 48 hrs or so.

If you've never checked out Sun Ra's Disney covers, they're a hoot. He made a live record (bootleg quality sound, sadly) of all Disney tunes, which can be sampled here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVR5sFIPbg0&;feature=related

As well as a legendary studio recording of 'Pink Elephants on Parade':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6dBWxk-0lE

Great stuff.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Sep 13, 2011 12:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sun Ra Doc.

In 86'-87' he played a few shows of all Disney tunes at the just opened Knitting Factory in NYC,when first open the shows took place on the street level floor of the club which was tiny with the small stage right up against the storefront window,it was very humorous to watch the pedestrians stop and stare in at the troupe of wildly dressed people onstage screeching and honking their way through Wish Upon a Star.He revisited the Disney catalog from time to time so I was lucky to see him perform the songs a couple of times over the years.
I lost touch with the Arkestra after Sun Ra and John Gilmore's left this plane,it didn't feel the same for me without them.That's an impressive lineup for Marshal's album,especially the bass tandem of Parker and Silva.I read something about the Parker/Jordan pairing,it might have been at Parker's vision feastival, matchstickstatue,but heard nothing about the resultant performances.Jordan also recently played some shows with David Murray and the World Saxophone Quartet.

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Poster: matchstickstatue Date: Sep 13, 2011 12:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sun Ra Doc.

I saw Park/Jordan/Futterman/Fielder at the Guelph jazz Festival, which is sort of Canada's Vision fest (for continuity Parker and/or Drake, I think have played them all, or at least the decade I've been going). I think it was kind of a one-off (billed as the 'Creative Collective'), but given both the empathy of the performers and the impact of the date, Sunday's show was a top 5 lifetime show for me. It blew Parker and Paul Plimley (two days before) out of the water, and that was overwhelming enough. Anywho, I highly recommend a trip to Guelph for anyone close who loves the music. Certainly the greatest bang for buck one can get outside of NYC.

I stand jealous of your Sun Ra shows. Never made it to the old Knitting factory, or even Tonic. I've made the pilgrimage to the Stone, but seeing the man from Saturn in that window must have been earth-shattering.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Sep 13, 2011 1:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sun Ra Doc.

Just lucky enough to live close to NYC at a time when things were happening matchstickstatue.I have seen all of the great free jazz artists who have performed since 81' on,and I have to say Sun Ra was as powerful a presence as I have seen on a stage .When he would saunter out,he seemed to almost glide to his keyboard set up.The cat was serious about his music,and created a vibe I have never felt from other musicians,if you locked in with him during a song you felt like he knew it,and eventually he would look you dead in the eye.It is a shame everyone did not get to feel the power of Sun Ra in person.
On the other hand,it's a great thing our northern neighbors have a world class jazz festival every year.Mr. Parker can have that effect on folks,just leave you shaking your head after a brilliant performance.